tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post3062383457726634333..comments2024-03-06T00:35:25.500-08:00Comments on Perks N Peeves: "Optional" = Not Really OptionalUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-14560594780281096092011-10-28T16:01:16.638-07:002011-10-28T16:01:16.638-07:00@Sunscorch: To each their own, especially in a sit...@Sunscorch: To each their own, especially in a situation such as this. It involves a rather large change that not only changes the gameplay but also the nature and reasoning behind it. Blizzard has been promoting that pet battles will be entirely optional, but it's looking less and less optional from a pet collector's point of view with the idea that "countless new pets" are Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-11688875588262887092011-10-28T09:03:01.981-07:002011-10-28T09:03:01.981-07:00To be honest, I find it a little hard to believe t...To be honest, I find it a little hard to believe that people can have valid concerns over friendly pet battles, when they'll happily go and slaughter scores of what are effectively, according to lore, sentient species, without batting an eyelid.<br /><br />If, as some assume, pet stats will be randomised for wild catches, and normalised for other pets, the people who are just in it for Sunscorchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00943514305567650479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-66398672989719148102011-10-28T07:53:29.864-07:002011-10-28T07:53:29.864-07:00I'll also agree 1000x... pet collecting was no...I'll also agree 1000x... pet collecting was not broken and didn't need any changes. There are SO many pet collectors, especially with the new achievements, and none of us were going 'Oh man, I sure love obsessively collecting pets, but I wish there was something more engaging I could do with them- I know, lets pit my cute adorable Bananas in a fight to the death with a Hyacinth MacawDianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16729931288284336383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-84754928072483867062011-10-26T15:51:58.629-07:002011-10-26T15:51:58.629-07:00@Eileen D: I've read a few posts on the forums...@Eileen D: I've read a few posts on the forums about this new system promoting violence against animals IRL, and I think they're valid concerns. Whether or not Blizzard will listen, it's hard to say.<br /><br />It's one thing to go on a quest and hunt down a wild animal to retrieve an item, or to be a hunter with your loyal pet defending you and helping you fight against the "Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-47872635544885508272011-10-26T12:10:48.354-07:002011-10-26T12:10:48.354-07:00To be honest, when pet battles were announced I ke...To be honest, when pet battles were announced I kept thinking "it's a joke, it has to be. They're non-combat pets..." but it wasnt. Part of me really hopes this isnt implemented and becomes just another "Path of the Titans" thing, but I get the feeling it's not, and it will come out.<br /><br />Since facing that this may actually happen, I also felt I had to Lynarahttp://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=lynaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-15994617068156510072011-10-26T10:20:28.924-07:002011-10-26T10:20:28.924-07:00Am I the only one questioning the ethics and moral...Am I the only one questioning the ethics and morals behind this pet battle-system? Imagine RL dogfights and roosterfights and bullfights, where animals get killed purely for the pleasure of the crowds. Of course, most of us enjoying WoW are adults and not that easily influenced, but what about youngsters? I just find the idea of allowing my minipets, I have 131 now, participating in what my Eileen Dhttp://eileend.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-31802763014900435072011-10-25T17:47:02.807-07:002011-10-25T17:47:02.807-07:00@Kintarah: You've summed it up quite well! Rat...@Kintarah: You've summed it up quite well! Rather than dancing around this and conveniently stating it's all "optional", I wish Blizzard had been a bit more honest and admitted that this new feature really will alter how pet collecting gameplay will ultimately work. It's not exactly a bad/good thing, but to present this whole idea that collectors will be able to continue Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-45110261498849179942011-10-25T13:51:50.111-07:002011-10-25T13:51:50.111-07:00I wasn't happy when I read Zarhym's commen...I wasn't happy when I read Zarhym's comment either.<br /><br />The reason I agree with Quintessence about this being not really optional is that Blizzard is changing their "primary purpose" of pet collecting to be battles.<br /><br />Blizz is going to put all their "companion pet" energy into the battles and making new pets available via this system. <br /><br />I don&Kintarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-22928029658368337372011-10-25T08:03:09.263-07:002011-10-25T08:03:09.263-07:00@Diana: That's a good point! How many pets is ...@Diana: That's a good point! How many pets is "countless" and how big of a dent will it make on a collection should a player choose to refrain from participating? The answers to these questions will affect how well-received this feature will be, and whether or not some collectors will see this as optional.<br /><br />Personally, I don't mind if more people get interested in Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-14912877130465815832011-10-25T07:46:21.376-07:002011-10-25T07:46:21.376-07:00I think they key phrase that bothers me is 'co...I think they key phrase that bothers me is 'countless more pets'. In any particular thing in WoW that I don't want to do, it never impacts my collecting by much, be it mounts or pets. I think the worst would be archaeology, and that's only 5 pets. Daily grinds never affect more than 1-2 pets. <br /><br />I get that no one is forcing me to do anything. That everything is Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16729931288284336383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-34833278066656913242011-10-25T07:23:15.085-07:002011-10-25T07:23:15.085-07:00@Jen: I think what it boils down to is on one hand...@Jen: I think what it boils down to is on one hand, Blizzard doesn't want anyone to feel forced to do anything. On the other hand, they feel it's necessary for players to get involved to some extent in certain content and activities in order to reap the rewards. It's a very fine line they're walking and when it comes to some features such as pet battling, Blizzard often comes off Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-11841776000476811802011-10-25T06:21:39.344-07:002011-10-25T06:21:39.344-07:00I can understand the mentality and it is very frus...I can understand the mentality and it is very frustrating to want something and not be able to get it... but I don't think Blizzard should do anything about it. These things are meant to be rewards, not taken as a given. I despise dailies, so I won't get a starry pony from TB... and it's OK, it's indeed optional and it's not like Blizzard is preventing me from getting it.<br /Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08593248317954113334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-85857120659616205242011-10-25T04:52:49.005-07:002011-10-25T04:52:49.005-07:00@Jen: I was thinking about this, and it did make m...@Jen: I was thinking about this, and it did make me take a step back to rethink my stance on the situation. I can't fault Blizzard for the implementation of something that some simply will not enjoy or will feel they have to endure to continue playing. Does it justify the new systems/features entirely? No. But on the other hand, does it make the new system/features wrong? No.<br /><br />It&#Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-3750775568260114052011-10-25T04:42:59.579-07:002011-10-25T04:42:59.579-07:00I understand the frustation, but I don't under...I understand the frustation, but I don't understand the reasoning, sorry. It's like saying that I really, really like to have T12 gear, but I dislike raiding. If I was an RPer and I loved that shaman T12 gear... does that mean that Blizzard is keeping it away from me? Or that Blizzard should give me the same set through other means? <br /><br />This argument can apply to anything in the Jenhttp://www.storiesofwow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-70496251049364450972011-10-25T03:53:22.227-07:002011-10-25T03:53:22.227-07:00@Cleophis: Many will feel the same way. Although t...@Cleophis: Many will feel the same way. Although they would rather not participate, in the end they will feel they have to in order to continue on.<br /><br />@Anonymous: I wouldn't count out a collector who doesn't participate in pet battling, and I wouldn't think any less of them either.<br /><br />Both Archaeology and PVP'ing are great examples and are similar situations. I'Quintessencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12223526554154949051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-85711316793566427772011-10-25T03:22:18.053-07:002011-10-25T03:22:18.053-07:00I understand what you're saying, but it is opt...I understand what you're saying, but it is optional nonetheless. It's not like your pets will become unsummonable unless you participate in pet battles. All I can keep thinking here is that this line of reasoning can be used for everything. A lot of pet collectors really dislike archaeology, but they do it anyhow to get pets. Others don't, and I don't consider them any less a pet Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388700860822911526.post-11454386401565222722011-10-25T03:08:49.191-07:002011-10-25T03:08:49.191-07:00I agree with you. I don't like to much this ne...I agree with you. I don't like to much this new feature but if there are more pets, well, I'll do it...Cleophishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01576383675043480150noreply@blogger.com